Dan Spiegel: Markstrom Called Up (for good?)

good perspective, I think the Panthers have played better than their record. They just don't seem to be able to get all parts of their game in sync. When forwards are going the D or goaltending lets them down. When they play good defensivly and hold the score down they don't score themselves. I think they have been a lot better than their record.

It's about time can't wait to see him in net!

Not. A. Good. Move. Our defense blows and they're calling him up right before we walk into Philly and Pittsburgh? Why?! So Giroux and Crosby can each take 15 swipes at the puck while Mike Weaver struggles with a decision to dump the puck in. He's going to either get lit up or play great. So then we trade Jose.. and our tandem is Marky and Clem? I don't like that idea at all. Not one bit.

I hope I'm proven wrong, but this is not a smart move. By the way, Huberdeau got hurt in practice today. One report said he skated it off and another said he left the ice.

With the way Florida has been playing, he might get lit up.

As far as I know, Theodore has a NTC.

Pierre Lubrun wrote over at ESPN that Tallon is 5-6 games away from turning the team over to some more kids (as in, poor play over the next 5 or 6 and some deals start getting made and the kids start getting opportunities). Personally, I'd rather they let them finish the season in the AHL with the occasional spot start to expose them to the game's differences.

I believe that the Markstrom move was done above all else for the fans. Very dour mood amongst the Panther faithful this season (for good reason) and the season ticket holders have been told next season's prices going up, this will energize us for a while.

As far as I know, Theodore has a NTC.

Pierre Lubrun wrote over at ESPN that Tallon is 5-6 games away from turning the team over to some more kids (as in, poor play over the next 5 or 6 and some deals start getting made and the kids start getting opportunities). Personally, I'd rather they let them finish the season in the AHL with the occasional spot start to expose them to the game's differences.

I believe that the Markstrom move was done above all else for the fans. Very dour mood amongst the Panther faithful this season (for good reason) and the season ticket holders have been told next season's prices going up, this will energize us for a while.
- clarkey

These next fives games will tell us where we as a team stand. If we perform badly, we should make moves and prepare for our future. We over performed last season and the fans got too excited for the wrong reasons.

As far as I know, Theodore has a NTC.

Pierre Lubrun wrote over at ESPN that Tallon is 5-6 games away from turning the team over to some more kids (as in, poor play over the next 5 or 6 and some deals start getting made and the kids start getting opportunities). Personally, I'd rather they let them finish the season in the AHL with the occasional spot start to expose them to the game's differences.

I believe that the Markstrom move was done above all else for the fans. Very dour mood amongst the Panther faithful this season (for good reason) and the season ticket holders have been told next season's prices going up, this will energize us for a while.
- clarkey

And yes, he has a NTC.

May not be best for the team, but I'm excited to see him play

glad to see this move for florida. good prospect deserves a chance rather than hearing all the luongo to florida offers.

This is the kind of move that can get a team back on track.

Should be interesting.

Great move, with that D in front of him he'll lose confidence very quickly in his young career, this could ruin him. Another splendid move by the Florida Panthers!!

glad to see this move for florida. good prospect deserves a chance rather than hearing all the luongo to florida offers.
- deks1

Agreed!

This is a good move IMO he deserves a shot. He has been playing well an the AHL if he doesn't do that well in the couple of games he plays he will go back for the rest of the year. This could spark the team and get them going I see nothing wrong with this move.

Definately a good move. Yes, the defense has played a bit porus, but when you go out there knowing you have a sieve behind you, its tough. A new goalie behind the defense gives them a little spark, may be enough for them to turn it around. The goaltending has been poor too, don't try to trick yourself into thinkings its just a defensive problem. Especially when you watch Clemmenson play, there are times when you wonder what is going on. It just doesnt look like an orthodox goaltender out there.

The bottom line is that Theodore and Clemmenson are not good goalies, they never were. Don't be tricked by a decent campaign last year by them, they aren't good. Does anyone remeber Roman Checkmanek? Very good for about a year and thats it. Historically, neither of our current goalies are solid bets day in day out. Granted, neither is Markstrom since he's so young, but but the same goes for other young goalies when they enter the league, Lundquivst is a good example (Not just because he is sweedish!).

I have watched Markstrom play live for SA. He looks like a goalie should, very technical. My friends, when watching Panther games with me, always say that Theodore, and especially Clemmenson, just don't look like other goalies do in next, they sprawl their bodies more. Sort of like the Hasek style, but not the Hasek talent.Not to mention Markstrom has a bit of a size advantage over Theodore....

Think of it like a backup QB in football. If he comes in halfway through the game when the starter is getting creamed, even if its not his fault, it inspires everyone else, they get the sense that 'hey, maybe this is what the real problem was, lets go!'. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. But, can it really get any worse right now?

Definately a good move. Yes, the defense has played a bit porus, but when you go out there knowing you have a sieve behind you, its tough. A new goalie behind the defense gives them a little spark, may be enough for them to turn it around. The goaltending has been poor too, don't try to trick yourself into thinkings its just a defensive problem. Especially when you watch Clemmenson play, there are times when you wonder what is going on. It just doesnt look like an orthodox goaltender out there.

The bottom line is that Theodore and Clemmenson are not good goalies, they never were. Don't be tricked by a decent campaign last year by them, they aren't good. Does anyone remeber Roman Checkmanek? Very good for about a year and thats it. Historically, neither of our current goalies are solid bets day in day out. Granted, neither is Markstrom since he's so young, but but the same goes for other young goalies when they enter the league, Lundquivst is a good example (Not just because he is sweedish!).

I have watched Markstrom play live for SA. He looks like a goalie should, very technical. My friends, when watching Panther games with me, always say that Theodore, and especially Clemmenson, just don't look like other goalies do in next, they sprawl their bodies more. Sort of like the Hasek style, but not the Hasek talent.Not to mention Markstrom has a bit of a size advantage over Theodore....

Think of it like a backup QB in football. If he comes in halfway through the game when the starter is getting creamed, even if its not his fault, it inspires everyone else, they get the sense that 'hey, maybe this is what the real problem was, lets go!'. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. But, can it really get any worse right now?
- phxcyots22

Saying Theodore was never a good goalie is about where I stopped reading. Stupid comment.

Definately a good move. Yes, the defense has played a bit porus, but when you go out there knowing you have a sieve behind you, its tough. A new goalie behind the defense gives them a little spark, may be enough for them to turn it around. The goaltending has been poor too, don't try to trick yourself into thinkings its just a defensive problem. Especially when you watch Clemmenson play, there are times when you wonder what is going on. It just doesnt look like an orthodox goaltender out there.

The bottom line is that Theodore and Clemmenson are not good goalies, they never were. Don't be tricked by a decent campaign last year by them, they aren't good. Does anyone remeber Roman Checkmanek? Very good for about a year and thats it. Historically, neither of our current goalies are solid bets day in day out. Granted, neither is Markstrom since he's so young, but but the same goes for other young goalies when they enter the league, Lundquivst is a good example (Not just because he is sweedish!).

I have watched Markstrom play live for SA. He looks like a goalie should, very technical. My friends, when watching Panther games with me, always say that Theodore, and especially Clemmenson, just don't look like other goalies do in next, they sprawl their bodies more. Sort of like the Hasek style, but not the Hasek talent.Not to mention Markstrom has a bit of a size advantage over Theodore....

Think of it like a backup QB in football. If he comes in halfway through the game when the starter is getting creamed, even if its not his fault, it inspires everyone else, they get the sense that 'hey, maybe this is what the real problem was, lets go!'. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. But, can it really get any worse right now?
- phxcyots22

Yes, it can get worse. I would rather lose every other game this season than have Markstrom come in and get peppered with 45 NHL calibre shots a game and let in 5-6 goals. It will ruin his confidence. You can talk about sparking this and sparking that... the only "spark" is going to be from the friction created by the puck hitting the back of our net. It is not a good idea. If you want to create a spark, make a trade. Bench Weiss. Hell, TRADE Weiss. Maybe bring up Petrovic or Robak. Or Howden.

Yes, it can get worse. I would rather lose every other game this season than have Markstrom come in and get peppered with 45 NHL calibre shots a game and let in 5-6 goals. It will ruin his confidence. You can talk about sparking this and sparking that... the only "spark" is going to be from the friction created by the puck hitting the back of our net. It is not a good idea. If you want to create a spark, make a trade. Bench Weiss. Hell, TRADE Weiss. Maybe bring up Petrovic or Robak. Or Howden.
- Panthers88

We aren't giving up 45 shots a game though, its more along the 30 area. Even when we are losing, we are outshooting the other team often, so I don't think thats going to be a killer problem. The rebound control has not been there for either of our goalies this year, its not all about stopping the intial shot so much as what are you doing with the puck when it gets to you. Better rebound control could be enough to get the defense working better.

However, on the Weis front, I agree totally, ship him out before his value is completley destroyed. I wish it wasnt so, but he keeps falling into the same category as other Panther stars that are just average when they leave. Now that there is more talent on the team in our rookies, he just doesnt look like as good a hockey player. I'd love for him to turn it around, but I'm starting to think its time to move on...

We aren't giving up 45 shots a game though, its more along the 30 area. Even when we are losing, we are outshooting the other team often, so I don't think thats going to be a killer problem. The rebound control has not been there for either of our goalies this year, its not all about stopping the intial shot so much as what are you doing with the puck when it gets to you. Better rebound control could be enough to get the defense working better.

However, on the Weis front, I agree totally, ship him out before his value is completley destroyed. I wish it wasnt so, but he keeps falling into the same category as other Panther stars that are just average when they leave. Now that there is more talent on the team in our rookies, he just doesnt look like as good a hockey player. I'd love for him to turn it around, but I'm starting to think its time to move on...
- phxcyots22

But you're going to take a goaltender who is playing "okay" in the AHL and want him to play great in the NHL. That wouldn't be a bad idea if we had any defense worth a damn. We don't. Confidence is super important for him. These next five games make or break our season.

Saying Theodore was never a good goalie is about where I stopped reading. Stupid comment.
- Gudbranson2012

Theodore is a solid goaltender (Was, he's starting to get there in years and is obviously slower than when in MTL), but he doesnt have that ability others in the league have where they can just steal games. The big save eludes him, it seems he's only making great saves when we are up by several goals, or already in a hole. When its a tie or we have a 1 goal lead, its like he can't handle the pressure. We don't need a goalie who plays a solid 3.00gaa/920svpct at this point, we need someone to come in and steal games here and there. We can look terrible one game and then great the next, you never know what your getting. maybe Markstrom can provide stability.

At any rate, you do have to admit one thing, Clemmenson is not a guy you want in goal very often. he's even streakier (Though, when he's on, damn he's good, but I dont want to bank on him being 'on' once every 4 starts or so, and suck the other 3).

#1 fav team is the Edmonton Oilers, born a raised an Oil fan.
#2 fav team is the Boston bruins, I love their style of play (get in you're face hockey)
Fast and hard hitting, and they don't play that sissy boring trap crap!

#1 fav team is the Edmonton Oilers, born a raised an Oil fan.
#2 fav team is the Boston bruins, I love their style of play (get in you're face hockey)
Fast and hard hitting, and they don't play that sissy boring trap crap!
- The_Hinter

Cool story bro!

It's about time...!! Im not saying that he will save the season, but he can certainly steal a game here and there, thing that Theo and Clem just cant do..

But you're going to take a goaltender who is playing "okay" in the AHL and want him to play great in the NHL. That wouldn't be a bad idea if we had any defense worth a damn. We don't. Confidence is super important for him. These next five games make or break our season.
- Panthers88

Thats a fair enough point, but we don't know how he will react to playing with a stronger defense in front of him. Ok, granted the Panthers defense is playing pretty terrible, they are still a stronger unit than San Antonio fields. It could be that he puts up comprable numbers. Over his last 12, Markstrom has played very well, so if the defense gets a little jolt and plays a bit better, and he continues to roll a bit, we might actually get more than a 2 game win streak going. All in all, though, I would rather they move Clemmenson and let Theodore and Markstrom platoon and let them ride hot hands. I feel like we are throwing the game out when Clemmenson steps in...

The rebound control has not been there for either of our goalies this year, its not all about stopping the intial shot so much as what are you doing with the puck when it gets to you. Better rebound control could be enough to get the defense working better..
- phxcyots22

Right there, spot on, its been driving me nuts all season, big juicy rebounds. A technically proficient butterfly goalie will put those rebounds into safe places or swallow them up. Neither of our present goalies do that leading to a lot of the puck battles or goals we see in front of our net.

I am not overly worried about this call-up at this point. I believe they will give the Alien a shot at a game. If he plays well, he'll get another, and if well, another etc.. If it does not go well they will pull him out of there, maybe give him one more shot to see how that one goes and send him back to the AHL if he is not simply studly. I get every impression they are going to be careful here. They can't move Theo anyway, he has said he wants to finish here and has a NTC, so he's here to stay, and if they move Clemmer and Alien can't hack it they can always bring Foster or Dov up as a back-up for Theo and call it a season and head for the draft.

And phxcyots22, have not really seen you around here so let me be the one to tell you Gudbranson2012 does not have to be responded to, he is not really a Panthers fans and just likes chucking incindiary comments out for reaction.